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Dust
01-25-2011, 09:29 AM
idea from http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/f87p6/what_is_your_most_controversial_opinion/

Intelligent discussions only, as these topics will very likely be disagreed upon. You may state why you disagree with them but bashing will not be tolerated and I will ask for this thread to be closed if it gets out of control.


I mean the kind of opinion that you strongly believe, but have to keep to yourself or risk being ostracized.

Mine is: I don't support the troops, which is dynamite where I'm from. It's not a case of opposing the war but supporting the soldiers, I believe that anyone who has joined the army has volunteered themselves to invade and occupy an innocent country, and is nothing more than a paid murderer. I get sickened by the charities and collections to help the 'heroes' - I can't give sympathy when an occupying soldier is shot by a person defending their own nation.

I'd get physically attacked at some point if I said this out loud, but I believe it all the same.


I may post another but a big thing I often don't mention in everyday conversations is not believing in god. I never tell people not to believe in him or tell them they are stupid for believing in a higher power, but I don't believe it exists. Being Mexican, I grew up in the catholic faith. As a kid, I pretty much went to church every Sunday did my first communion and everything. But I always loathed going. My family eventually stopped going regularly after my parents divorced. So into my teenage years I didn't really go to church, but the foundation was there and I still believed. There wasn't a reason not to, everyone I knew accepted it as truth without hesitation, almost like math. Then I started to question certain aspect, which I won't get into. But eventually I had so many questions that it outweighed the religion that I had learned. I get weird looks and nasty comments sometimes when people find out I'm an atheist. I've had people tell me I'm going to hell because I don't believe there is a god. So I usually keep it to myself unless I am asked. Whenever my family gets together we always do a big prayer and I don't make a scene or anything I just go along with it for the most part.

wookiemanx
01-25-2011, 10:05 AM
Dude awesome thread idea. I'm about to go to class right now, but I'll edit this post later with my opinion.

Edit: Most of the stuff I don't agree with have to do with how ritualistic our society is sometimes. For example Burial is still the most prevalent way to dispose of bodies. As much as we talk about conserving our resources we still take up countless acres of land with putting dead bodies in them.

Edit: I have some time before class so I'll put down that really any opinion I have is considered controversial where I live. I live in the south, the deep south, which don't get me wrong has some positive aspects. I won't generalize the south by saying this is true everywhere, because I haven't been to many other places in the south, but I did use to spend my summers and winters in Peoria and Boston with my grandparents, so that is really my basis for comparison. The problem with living where I do in the south is the anti-intellectual stance that nearly all people have here. The focus of nearly all studies that do occur where I live, whether in a college or high school, focuses heavily on a pragmatist view point of the practicality of knowledge. This focus leads to a discouragement of independent thought. Ritualism is also very prevalent where I live currently, in the sense that the status quo is the perfect way to accomplish things; which by all means is not in a lot of cases.

forefront
01-25-2011, 10:32 AM
I believe that all welfare should be abolished. I also believe that the entire Westboro Baptist Church should be lined up and shot.

D Moralize
01-25-2011, 10:48 AM
I think literacy tests and population control are good ideas that were implemented badly, Literacy tests were used unfairly to prevent literate black people from voting but I think in this day and age we should have to take a test proving we understand basic government before we are allowed to decide who runs it.I dont think we should have a 1 child policy like china or anything, just try to promote smaller families and adoption more, it makes me sad that people want to have 6 kids of their own when children just looking for someone to care for them are dying every day.

N!TRO
01-25-2011, 11:00 AM
IDK somethings should not be brought up in the manner like this. I'm talking about the military of course. I understand you have your views, thats great because thats the beauty of being a American and a young one at that learning to voice it can be controversial at sometimes. I honestly think you really have the grasp of how things really are in the military. We are a brotherhood, a family, better yet a community. We take care of our family members and others around us. I known a few that have fallen, my father has many that have fallen (Vietnam), a great uncle died in WW2. Might be a family of tradition and values, and you maybe right in your view on the current war. All I am saying is military discussions, in this manner are almost as bad as the group forefront called out. I have respect for everyone in this community and ALL military members in TLN. I am proud to say I love every member in the armed forces as if they are my family. this post is not bashing, its just my view when and how things should be said aloud.


Much respect
-N!TRO

D Moralize
01-25-2011, 12:20 PM
IDK somethings should not be brought up in the manner like this. I'm talking about the military of course. I understand you have your views, thats great because thats the beauty of being a American and a young one at that learning to voice it can be controversial at sometimes. I honestly think you really have the grasp of how things really are in the military. We are a brotherhood, a family, better yet a community. We take care of our family members and others around us. I known a few that have fallen, my father has many that have fallen (Vietnam), a great uncle died in WW2. Might be a family of tradition and values, and you maybe right in your view on the current war. All I am saying is military discussions, in this manner are almost as bad as the group forefront called out. I have respect for everyone in this community and ALL military members in TLN. I am proud to say I love every member in the armed forces as if they are my family. this post is not bashing, its just my view when and how things should be said aloud.


Much respect
-N!TRO
I think your supposed to say I don't agree with what your saying but I will protect your right to save it with my life, lol. Seriously on the military issue I can see both sides, it depends on the way you think, personally I couldnt join because you are sacrificing your ability to act on your sense of right and wrong for the greater good (hopefully)I wouldnt ever want to be told to kill someone without being sure they deserve it and possibly be in a situation where I know the people dont deserve it. At the same time some of my best friends and the people I respect most are in the military, because what I see as giving away my ability to make judgment calls in my life they see as becoming a martyr for the sake of protecting our county, and are willing to do whatever it takes. I think both views are valid and it really just depends person to person.

MichaelMongrel
01-25-2011, 12:26 PM
I believe that all welfare should be abolished. I also believe that the entire Westboro Baptist Church should be lined up and shot.

If you need me to scope out that place and help plan this, let me know. (I'm from Topeka, KS)... Jk.

On Topic:
- I believe the theory of Evolution as widely believed is incorrect.
- I am pro-life.
- I am for legalizing marijuana (but putting an age on it, like 18).
- I believe elderly people should have to take another driving test at a certain age. A test that is made to make sure they can still see everything that you need to see when you are driving.
- I extremely dislike feminists.... errrr, let me rephrase that. I extremely dislike feminists who act like women need MORE power than men. Equality is fine, but pushing it further than that is wrong.
- I believe the Commander in Chief shouldn't be criticized for sending troops to go help rebuild countries in need.

ParaSit3
01-25-2011, 12:56 PM
I think Canadians won the war of 1812.

Get at me :)

Joe Fries
01-25-2011, 01:27 PM
I don't support the troops because I don't support the US government. I think they are in places for the wrong reasons and war, in general, is wrong. There is no reason our soldiers should be dying in the middle east and there never was. That being said it was the soldiers choice to go into the military, whether they sincerely enjoy it or they did it for the money does not matter to me.

I also don't know how religion is still such a taboo topic in this day and age. People should be allowed to openly question religion without getting dirty looks or blacklisted from places, because, let's face it, there are some gaping holes in religion. I also think there are many more religious extremists than atheist extremists and the world would probably be infinitely better if there was no religion and everyone spoke the same language.

Araneatrox
01-25-2011, 01:38 PM
People should not be allowed children unless they can prove they have means to support them. A big problem in the UK is young teens getting pregnant so they can live of the state.

Religion should not be taught in schools.

Thats about it.

MS eMeRaLd
01-25-2011, 02:55 PM
jeremy clarkson should be prime minister
people talk about having having common sense, not many people seem to have it.
so having said that i have uncommon sense :P

Antidote
01-25-2011, 03:56 PM
People should have to obtain some sort of license and take a test in order to breed.

Dust
01-25-2011, 04:16 PM
I'll address some of the other topics after I eat lol. But most agree that some people shouldn't have children. There is 2 main categories I feel these fall under.

1. Financially unable to sustain a child
2. Psychologically unprepared for a child

Teenage pregnancy would most likely fall under both categories. I would fit under both categories lol. But not allowing people that fall into one of these categories seems like an abstract concept. How would you regulate this?

on option: after the age of 18 you need to take a test to get a parenting licence, and you will not get a licence until you pass this course.

you could really only do a couple of this, at least that I can think of.

1. Forced adoption
2. Fine them
3. abortion
4. send them into a foster home until the parent pass a "parental inspection" of sorts

they just don't seem like viable options, not so say clearly going against society's morals, the people would be so against any of these that it couldn't happen


lets see what yall think

xdapsx
01-25-2011, 06:18 PM
I believe every living person is corrupt.
I think the media should be blamed for just about everything that is wrong in the world.
I don't believe in religion. I do however believe in a relationship with God.
The USA needs a new education system, or a way to make people learn.
Instead of fighting for oil over seas, we should use the oil deposit we have in Alaska.
Registered sex offenders should be hung in a public display.
Thieves should have their hands cut off.
Porn should be illegal.
I am Pro-Life.
I believe in something like the force.
Anyone who uses and/or sells drugs, should be locked up for the rest of their life.


There is so much, I'm too lazy to type it all out.

I have to know if cannabis falls into the drugs section? I pretty much agree with you on everything but this one. I have smoked herb for years and it just became legal in Michigan to smoke medical marijuana. If the state puts a tax on medical growers it would be more than enough money to keep the glove afloat. Our economy is crapped out due to the failing auto industry. Children shouldnt smoke pot, and some "adults" shouldnt toke. But I wouldnt mind to paying extra on the bag i bought to relax after a long LAN, if it meant i was providing for the hand that feeds.

My most controversial opinion is that more mature adults should smoke the good herb. Halo is a sport dominated in population by young children. Most of you reading this SHOULD NOT PARTAKE in something so serious as inhaling heated plant matter into your lungs. It has been proven that it slows your reaction time and it DOES DO DAMAGE TO YOUR LUNGS. The studies that were conducted to test these truths about smoking were performed on adults. Meaning that a brain and lungs, earlier in development than an adult , could suffer even more severe consequences. Having said that I will say that i toot up a jay after gaming for several hours to help me relax and get more creative ideas while i watch game film. I also use socially with my friends which is similar to going out with some friends for a few beers, which i also do. Just much less often simply because i do not prefer the way my body feels after drinking as opposed to smoking.

Vox
01-25-2011, 09:51 PM
If you need me to scope out that place and help plan this, let me know. (I'm from Topeka, KS)... Jk.

On Topic:
- I believe the theory of Evolution as widely believed is incorrect.
- I am pro-life.
- I am for legalizing marijuana (but putting an age on it, like 18).
- I believe elderly people should have to take another driving test at a certain age. A test that is made to make sure they can still see everything that you need to see when you are driving.
- I extremely dislike feminists.... errrr, let me rephrase that. I extremely dislike feminists who act like women need MORE power than men. Equality is fine, but pushing it further than that is wrong.
- I believe the Commander in Chief shouldn't be criticized for sending troops to go help rebuild countries in need.

Where have you been all my life? haha...femnazis drive me crazy...at 55 every three years they should take the full test...at 65 every year...sound good? First two yes...and cigarettes are legal...alcohol is legal...but weed isn't???

KRILLIN
01-25-2011, 10:02 PM
I really wish I could give some of mine. This is a great thread.

D Moralize
01-26-2011, 05:32 PM
I really wish I could give some of mine. This is a great thread.

do it, no ones judging. Also atleast in arizona wo do make people take the driving test when the get old, but that may only be after they start scoring lower on the eye tests. But boht of my grandmas ones in here late 60's the other early 70's have had to take the actual driving test again and my older grandma failed thankfully, she was getting scary to ride with

KRILLIN
01-27-2011, 02:47 PM
do it, no ones judging. Also atleast in arizona wo do make people take the driving test when the get old, but that may only be after they start scoring lower on the eye tests. But boht of my grandmas ones in here late 60's the other early 70's have had to take the actual driving test again and my older grandma failed thankfully, she was getting scary to ride with
Being a teacher, everyone is judging me lol.

forefront
01-27-2011, 03:54 PM
I believe that everything you or I believe is subject to change at any time. I also believe that I don't give a damn what you believe, and I will never try to change your mind. If your beliefs affect me or my family, I will let you know, and you will not like me. This will not bother me. I believe that if that if America falls, I will move to Canada. If Canada falls I will build a cabin in the woods and hunt enough food for my family to survive.

I believe that this would make a good Youtube video speech.

ITCHY
01-27-2011, 05:15 PM
Great thread Ecks Nine, the opinions expressed here are all ones that, in my opinion, make for good conversation (what others call "controversial" I call "interesting").

I try as hard as possible to look at everyone's opinions in an unbiased stance and take what I can from their knowledge on the topic. That being said I do have my own opinions on religion, life (evolution/creation theories), abortion, government, etc., that are commonly disagreed with by my family and friends here in the bible belt region of the U.S.

- I do not believe in a higher power, I'm an atheist. I was raised a Christian and regularly attended Church all through my childhood. My own opinions began to sprout and questions I would asked became harder and harder for people to answer without falling on Religion's crutch "Faith".
- I'm Pro-Choice, and only because there is always a circumstance that would deem this practice to be necessary in my opinion. I'd ask any person who is strictly against abortion to think, is it truly fair that the victim of rape should suffer for 9 months the mental, physical, and financial agony of bringing a child into this world that could potentially carry the same genetic defects that caused the rapist to have a mental incapability to stop such a sick crime against another human?
- I believe there is no deeper meaning to life and that our origins/creation as humans is an irrelevant area to focus on instead of enjoying what small time we have with our loved ones. I'm strongly planted in the idea that we just live and we just die, like the animals beneath us on the food chain.
- As for government, I wouldn't know where to begin to be honest. I guess the only thing that can be said is our Checks and Balances have failed us.

Smallz08
01-31-2011, 05:24 AM
Man I want to address so much stuff in this thread but I am not going to because it will look like I am trying to prove someone wrong and I don't want to be that guy because I hate the people who just pushes their ideas on people. but I will say this. All religions have faith and that is what drives people to keep going in life in the face of everything that is screaming at you that you will fail. I believe that I am nothing without God in my life and I would throw my entire reputation and life out of the window just so I could have God in my life because he is the only reason why I am breathing right now. I would be glad to share with anyone who is interested or has questions about what I think about God and life because I base all of my knowledge about God/life with what the bible says and what I have done research on and continue to research this very day instead of just taking someones word for it. I have my reasons why I think that the Bible is the truth and I would be glad to share that with you. You can pm me your questions if you want. I probably won't be able to answer all of them but I will try my best to find the answer because I will want to know the answer just as much as you do. I love you all and I will see you guys online!

Gearijigu
02-16-2011, 09:53 PM
I think with the current state of our country and economy that we should work out some way to release people from prison that are non-violent criminals for things such minor possesion crimes and so forth there would be an influx of cash from this seeing as it is somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 to 40 thousand tax payers dollars a year to house inmates

also.... - marijuana should be legalized taxed and an age limit should be put on it
- I believe in the theory evolution (contrary to what everyone were I live thinks )

Havoc
02-18-2011, 04:56 PM
I believe every living person is good at birth, and they are raised to be different. Usually, people are raised to put themselves before everyone else, because others did that to them, when there wasn't enough Money.
The Media IS a big problem, because people rely on it for what is in "style", for who's good and bad, and for social norms. But of course, it's only done for more Money.
All religons are hugely connected, one must have an open mind to find the source. Throughout time, many religons have made people serve Churches, to get them to do, or act how they desire. And in many cases, for Money.
Education is corrupt in the U.S., because of Money issues.
Instead of fighting for oil over seas, we should use the oil deposit we have in Alaska. Or, we can stop using oil, for the benefit of the oil companies, who are only in it for MONEY. We have many alternatives.
Thieves are only doing what they must to survive, because they don't have Money. Even though there is enough resources, or "products" to go around multiple times.
Porn is done for Money.
I am Pro-Life. But....then again...Parents often can't support their children, because they don't have enough money.
Anyone who uses and/or sells drugs, are doing it either because their friends told them it was "cool", or they need Money, and they can't get enslaved, I mean, get a job.

Here's a riddle for you all:
If the Federal Reserve LOANS EVERY DOLLAR out to us, AT INTEREST (meaning they want more back than they gave) where does the money come from, to pay for the interest?

Infinite Debt = Slavery

DaMuSiCFiEnD
02-22-2011, 05:25 PM
@ Havoc I seem to follow some of the ideas that you do have.

* I am stuck at a crossroad since I am of mexican decent. I know that Mexico is not a great place for a family to be raised due to lack of resources or financial reasons. Immigration will always be a topic that affects me. I don't really think it is right to cross illegaly because it's still breaking the law and wrong. But also they have to do it so that they can try and have a better life for themselves.
* In my opinion 9/11 was a set up and was only meant to benefit others.
* The government is corrupt and everyone knows it
* Universal Healthcare is pointless in my opinion since most people that usually don't have healthcare because they don't have the funds to allow to have it.
* Education needs to be rebuilt from scratch

firefly
03-04-2011, 06:04 AM
I think my big one is just the complete concept of seperating kids from reality at a young age.. Telling them lies, hiding what the real world is like, and ultimately just decieving them. I really don't believe in it.. You're basically setting your kid up to get let down or heart broken.

D Moralize
03-04-2011, 01:38 PM
I think my big one is just the complete concept of seperating kids from reality at a young age.. Telling them lies, hiding what the real world is like, and ultimately just decieving them. I really don't believe in it.. You're basically setting your kid up to get let down or heart broken.

My mom would agree with you, She always treated me like if I was old enough to ask then I was old enough to know the answer. I appreciate that she did this because I was a kid that could handle that stuff but im not sure if I would be like hey kid, lets go to mexico and see the drug war first hand, you shelter them partially because you are keeping them safe, but I do think to many kids are coddled and left crippled as adults because they were never taught basic life skills.

firefly
03-04-2011, 09:45 PM
but I do think to many kids are coddled and left crippled as adults because they were never taught basic life skills.

Indeed, my point exactly... I agree their should be some filtering of reality but not to the point where it warps a child's view of what is real and what is make believe.

Duke
04-12-2011, 06:39 PM
idea from http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/f87p6/what_is_your_most_controversial_opinion/

Intelligent discussions only, as these topics will very likely be disagreed upon. You may state why you disagree with them but bashing will not be tolerated and I will ask for this thread to be closed if it gets out of control.



I may post another but a big thing I often don't mention in everyday conversations is not believing in god. I never tell people not to believe in him or tell them they are stupid for believing in a higher power, but I don't believe it exists. Being Mexican, I grew up in the catholic faith. As a kid, I pretty much went to church every Sunday did my first communion and everything. But I always loathed going. My family eventually stopped going regularly after my parents divorced. So into my teenage years I didn't really go to church, but the foundation was there and I still believed. There wasn't a reason not to, everyone I knew accepted it as truth without hesitation, almost like math. Then I started to question certain aspect, which I won't get into. But eventually I had so many questions that it outweighed the religion that I had learned. I get weird looks and nasty comments sometimes when people find out I'm an atheist. I've had people tell me I'm going to hell because I don't believe there is a god. So I usually keep it to myself unless I am asked. Whenever my family gets together we always do a big prayer and I don't make a scene or anything I just go along with it for the most part.


Me too, man. I was raised Catholic and stopped believing around middle school. I still tell people I'm Catholic because people where I'm from just can't handle it. It's amazing really.

itzcritty
05-03-2011, 07:44 AM
IDK somethings should not be brought up in the manner like this. I'm talking about the military of course. I understand you have your views, thats great because thats the beauty of being a American and a young one at that learning to voice it can be controversial at sometimes. I honestly think you really have the grasp of how things really are in the military. We are a brotherhood, a family, better yet a community. We take care of our family members and others around us. I known a few that have fallen, my father has many that have fallen (Vietnam), a great uncle died in WW2. Might be a family of tradition and values, and you maybe right in your view on the current war. All I am saying is military discussions, in this manner are almost as bad as the group forefront called out. I have respect for everyone in this community and ALL military members in TLN. I am proud to say I love every member in the armed forces as if they are my family. this post is not bashing, its just my view when and how things should be said aloud.


Much respect
-N!TRO

I very strongly agree with this

ArrYeMatey
05-07-2011, 09:13 PM
A few:
Those on death row (and perhaps those who have a life sentence) should be given to scientists so they can have human test subjects for experimental drugs and such.
The US should adopt much harsher penalties for DUIs. 1 time = big fine or jail time (1mo or so). 2 = 1 year. 3 = life (fuck you drunk drivers.)
Every man must pass a military training program and be reevaluated every 3 years. (Don't have to enlist, just pass the training.)
Classes (or any workplace test) should be catered to the smartest, not the middle or dumbest. Stop lowering standards.
NASA should get a lot more money.

Dust
05-07-2011, 09:25 PM
A few:
Those on death row (and perhaps those who have a life sentence) should be given to scientists so they can have human test subjects for experimental drugs and such.
The US should adopt much harsher penalties for DUIs. 1 time = big fine or jail time (1mo or so). 2 = 1 year. 3 = life (fuck you drunk drivers.)
Every man must pass a military training program and be reevaluated every 3 years. (Don't have to enlist, just pass the training.)
Classes (or any workplace test) should be catered to the smartest, not the middle or dumbest. Stop lowering standards.
NASA should get a lot more money.

Cruel and unusual punishment.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts about why every man should pass a military training program every three years.
...What happens if you don't pass.
...how much would it cost to have an instructor in every region in the U.S run every male through an evaluation program
...What would be the punishment of not showing up to this, more money spent on finding people that don't go to this
...What would be tested.


But if we lower our standards, more students will pass and the government will give us more money /s


I agree NASA should get more money.
...Where do we find the money to fund NASA.
...Even speaking of lowering military spending in the U.S. is a traitorous crime.

ArrYeMatey
05-07-2011, 10:12 PM
Cruel and unusual punishment.

I'm interested to hear your thoughts about why every man should pass a military training program every three years.
...What happens if you don't pass.
...how much would it cost to have an instructor in every region in the U.S run every male through an evaluation program
...What would be the punishment of not showing up to this, more money spent on finding people that don't go to this
...What would be tested.


But if we lower our standards, more students will pass and the government will give us more money /s


I agree NASA should get more money.
...Where do we find the money to fund NASA.
...Even speaking of lowering military spending in the U.S. is a traitorous crime.

Then use those on death row, and if there are any crazy side effects, kill them then and there.

Red Dawn is going to happen. I SWEAR IT!!!!!
Haven't really though about it in depth, but in the event of an invasion (RED DAWN DAMNIT), if every man had some military training, we'd be a lot better off. I think there are bases all over the country, so one should be relatively close. Pay for it by ending these "wars" and bringing standing troops in other countries (that aren't doing anything) back. This alone should be enough to pay for this program.
A tax break incentive would be put forward if you passed the training, and everyone loves to get a tax break. If you don't do it, no penalty, you just don't receive a nice tax break.
Just the basics as they would not be enlisting. I just think it would be good if there was a time when the US really needed members, there would already be an understanding of the basic things, and more advanced things can be taught straight away.

Haha that statement is too true :(. But the standards can't be raised because there would be to much uproar. "School is to hard, I can't get a C!" Also I read a while back some city lowered the grade needed to pass the police (or fire I forget which) written test. The passing score was equivalent to a D. I wasn't sure if the article was serious or not, but it was :(.

NASA's budget is in the 3-4b range. Sounds like a lot, but for a government budget of over 1t, thats nothing. I'm sure they could find an extra 5-10[0]b (I wish) for NASA.